- Bovada poker is just a fraud and waste of your energy and cash, don’t bother enjoying this website and coming money like I did so. I’m no saying this since I don’t like poker, actually I really like playing poker online as well as in casinos, I simply dislike getting scammed and feeling like my cash has been taken.
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A detailed report has appeared online which alleges serious security breaches at Bovada Poker, and claims that millions may have been siphoned from the site by some form of ‘super-user’ accounts coupled with the use of bots. This raises the question: is Bovada poker rigged?
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The fantastical claims have been made by an anonymous team whose members “span industries including gaming, advertising, data mining, open source software development, security, and database solutions,” according to the report from dataminepoker.
They claim that:
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“Based on all of the separate tests completed by our contracting team, it is evident that there are massive issues at Bovada Poker. There are issues with the number of multi large hands, collusion teams, and bots.”
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Factors which they also allege they were able to exploit themselves on Bovada in trials afterwards, stating:
All of these situations were proven through data collection, analysis, and then using the techniques ourselves to increase our ability to win over average players.”
Online poker has always had more than its fair share of ‘paranoia’ among its players, usually based on the ‘luck’ factor which can see players run bad, suffer multiple bad beats, lose to ‘ridiculous’ plays by their opponents and then use the online community forums as a ‘sounding-off board’ for their tale of ‘rigged’ online poker-rooms.
Indeed, the DataMinePoker team describe such ‘paranoia’ as one of their starting points, saying:
As part of the initial research for this project, multiple online forums and gambling related social networks were combed for stories based on the potential unfairness of the Bovada Poker room. Based on the data collection of public posts within the past year, 1,461 separate stories of single or multi hand suspicious activity at Bovada Poker were found, collected, and verified.”
However, such ‘paranoia’ is not always mis-placed. The Ultimate Bet scandal of 2007 became the biggest in poker’s history when it was discovered that a ‘super-user’ account was being used, enabling the user to play in ‘God-mode’ with the ability to view other players hole cards, and winning millions of dollars from unsuspecting victims.
More recently, PokerStars investigated an alleged ‘bot ring’ emanating from Eastern Europe which was apparently exploiting their low-to-mid stakes PLO games, with many players being recompensed by the industry leader following their probe.
Whether or not these most recent allegations involving Bovada have any truth to them, the scale of the report – which DataMinePoker claim is only an initial public report, with secondary, more detailed, reports to come – is impressive.
After analyzing the Bovada Poker Mac and Windows applications, it was decided that these software applications were fairly secure and would require an advanced visual recognition system to collect the data required.'
Although extremely detailed, with mathematical models, hand-history reading scripts and coding (which are beyond this writer’s ken , but will doubtless be subject to intense scrutiny by many online aficionados of the game and its perceived unfairness) the core results of the report allege that:
- There is a massive problem where users are being edge-cased in big hands that they tend to lose a large pot over.
- Our team can easily confirm that Bovada Poker is a haven for collusion activity.
- It was determined that there are zero counter measures against bots and no front end way to try and detect bots/injectable systems.
Report states that:
These problems could be linked to a rogue employee(s) or hacker group that may have compromised the random number generator and shuffling algorithms used by the poker room software. It is also possible that this is a coincidental mistake made by the initial programmers of the random number generator/shuffling algorithms.'
A third possibility does not seem to have found any real substance during their ‘research’, the team stating:
Another, less likely possibility, is that Bovada is knowingly using their own software loophole to steal large amounts of user money,” as they later reveal that “From our base analysis…what occurred at Absolute/Ultimate Bet is not occurring on Bovada Poker in a noticeable way.”
The report also states that one of the difficulties they faced in compiling the report was the fact that Bovada is a private poker room, and they also point out:
Since Bovada Poker is not located within the United States, it is confirmed that the software has not readily been verified by the Nevada Gaming Commission or related American gaming control boards.”
That's something which they claim led them to initial suspicions that the poker room “may have potential security risks not checked by adequate control boards,” a belief which they allege their report confirms as having led to serious cheating issues and which – somewhat confusingly it may seem to many, “show that Bovada Poker is operating an unfair poker room (even while passing modern gambling software verification tests).”
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They also claim their team is creating security on other online sites including alongside Bovada including:
- America’s Card Room
- BetOnline
- Sports Betting.ag
- Black Chip
- Carbon
Following these separate public reports, a large centralized report with access to all open source software tools, collection data, and image/video evidence will be released at once.
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Whether this report turns out to contain any real issues of substance or not, the timing is not particularly good for the online gaming industry in general, coming in the wake of investigations into, and restrictions on, DFS and at a time when the big poker sites are doggedly clawing their way back into the US markets state-by-state.
It should be noted however that Bovada is, according to their own website, operated by Salmon River Technologies Ltd ('Salmon River Technologies Ltd', pursuant to a gaming license issued by the Kahnawake Gaming Commission, located in the Mohawk Territory of Kahnawake, Canada).
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michael.proctor
I consider myself a pretty decent black jack player, but when you are betting only $10 a hand and find yourself $600 down in an hour something is wrong. Like the dealer getting 10 blackjacks and they finally throw you one. Everytime you get a 20 the bastard gets a 21. Doubling down on 10 or 11 only gets you 12-15. If you have a hard 13-16 and the dealer has a small card showing and you stand, you lose and if you hit you still lose. All this happened at the double deck table where the dealer stands on a soft 17. These n*****s are nothing but rip-off artists and I'm going to prove it.Last edited by: unnamed administrator on Jan 12, 2017
Romes
I consider myself a pretty decent black jack player, but when you are betting only $10 a hand and find yourself $600 down in an hour something is wrong. Like the dealer getting 10 blackjacks and they finally throw you one. Everytime you get a 20 the bastard gets a 21. Doubling down on 10 or 11 only gets you 12-15. If you have a hard 13-16 and the dealer has a small card showing and you stand, you lose and if you hit you still lose. All this happened at the double deck table where the dealer stands on a soft 17. These n***ers are nothing but rip-off artists and I'm going to prove it.
(I edited the response to censor)Hi michael,
I realize you're quite frustrated (rightfully so) and think that bovada blackjack is cheating (quite possible).. but in order to make that kind of claim you need a little something called PROOF. You'd need to record your hands, preferably on video, and you'd need to play thousands of hands so that we could do the math on the Wins/Losses/Pushes and check your EV +/- SD's. At that point we could conclude with evidence that you're ether the victim of a short term bad run blowing off some steam, or if you have actually in fact been cheated. I personally have lost for months, with a teammate as well, to a non stop flow of dealer 21's when we have 20, etc, etc, etc. Not to mention we played thousands of hands over months where as you played maybe 500-600 hands over a course of hours.. very short term and non conclusive. It DOES happen in real blackjack and COULD happen online. Thus, you must have some kind of PROOF to make these claims.
Either way the derogatory comments you used are inappropriate and will result in a little vacation from the forums for you.. So hopefully you use that time to cool off and think about a better way going about discussing it, or proving it.
Playing it correctly means you've already won.
Wizard
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First, warning given for profanity. Next time you'll get a suspension.Administrator
Second, in an hour if you played fast you could bet 600 hands. That would have a standard deviation of 28.17 units.
Let's assume you can expect to lose 3 from the house edge. The probability of losing another 57 due to bad luck is 2.02 standard deviations. The probability of luck that bad or worse is 2.15%. So it could easily be bad luck and that is what I believe.
If you have other evidence, let's see it. I prefer to see exact numbers. If you claim something happens 'every time,' then please state the sample size.
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I consider myself a pretty decent black jack player, but when you are betting only $10 a hand and find yourself $600 down in an hour something is wrong. Like the dealer getting 10 blackjacks and they finally throw you one. Everytime you get a 20 the bastard gets a 21. Doubling down on 10 or 11 only gets you 12-15. If you have a hard 13-16 and the dealer has a small card showing and you stand, you lose and if you hit you still lose. All this happened at the double deck table where the dealer stands on a soft 17. These n*****s are nothing but rip-off artists and I'm going to prove it.
I can live with 'bastard' but am masking the n word.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
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I consider myself a pretty decent black jack player, but when you are betting only $10 a hand and find yourself $600 down in an hour something is wrong. Like the dealer getting 10 blackjacks and they finally throw you one. Everytime you get a 20 the bastard gets a 21. Doubling down on 10 or 11 only gets you 12-15. If you have a hard 13-16 and the dealer has a small card showing and you stand, you lose and if you hit you still lose. All this happened at the double deck table where the dealer stands on a soft 17. These n*****s are nothing but rip-off artists and I'm going to prove it.
Here is some advice.. Don't EVER play digital table games online and expect to win. You should know better. Just bet sports where the outcomes are real life or go to a local casino for live games. There are also some sites that have live black jack. Perhaps they are legitimate, but I would have my suspicions there as well.
'Winners hit n run.. Losers stick around'
RogerKint
Here is some advice.. Don't EVER play digital table games online and expect to win. You should know better. Just bet sports where the outcomes are real life or go to a local casino for live games. There are also some sites that have live black jack. Perhaps they are legitimate, but I would have my suspicions there as well.
Any game is beatable if you play a short enuff sesh.
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Romes
Any game is beatable if you play a short enuff sesh.
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You should redefine that.. You can walk away a winner if you play a short enough sesh and have any kind of chance to win a hand/event.. but that doesn't make a game 'beatable' as the math is still quite against you. Making a game 'beatable' implies (at least to me) that you have the advantage and/or a positive expectation in value from the game.Playing it correctly means you've already won.
RogerKint
You should redefine that.. You can walk away a winner if you play a short enough sesh and have any kind of chance to win a hand/event.. but that doesn't make a game 'beatable' as the math is still quite against you. Making a game 'beatable' implies (at least to me) that you have the advantage and/or a positive expectation in value from the game.
My bad
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Nathan
I can understand your frustration and anger OP, but using the N word is going way too far.Is Bovada Poker Site Rigged
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